“Hey! How Could They Leave Out …? ”

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A few weeks ago, I saw Croce Sings Croce, a wonderful concert where A.J. Croce, son of the late Jim Croce, performed his father’s hits.

A.J. did great, covering, Bad Bad Leroy Brown, Time in a Bottle, Operator, You Don’t Mess Around with Jim, I’ll Have to Say I Love You in – ”

“Wait a minute,” I thought to myself.

“A.J. didn’t do I’ll Have to Say I Love You in a Song.” 

Hmmm. Why sing all his father’s other songs that made the pop top 60, yet decline to sing one that was a top 10 hit?

Then I remembered the 1990s VH1 documentary, Jim Croce: Behind the Music.

It revealed that Jim’s widow Ingrid was upset about Jim touring all of the time, yet having little money to show for his effort. He wrote the tune to placate her. So, I can understand if A.J. is uneasy singing a love song written by his father for A.J.’s mother.

That prompted me to recall another recent concert I attended starring Three Dog Night. They scored 11 top 10 hits and did them all…

Well, almost all. Except for The Show Must Go On, which was in fact, their last top 10 hit. 

What gives with that omission? Your guess is as good as mine. 

I know I’m not the only one sometimes curious about why acts don’t include songs associated with them. For example, I remember leaving a Bette Midler concert roughly 25 years ago where afterward one attendee wailed:

“Why didn’t she sing Friends?” 

Again, I have no idea. Although, Bette does seem to have a wariness regarding most of her hits. At that same concert, after finishing performing The Rose, she half-seriously quipped that it was the only song that didn’t come back to bite her in the,

well, you can guess where.

“Oh, Ozmoe, honey: You get it.”

So, exactly why don’t artists perform all their hits if their hardcore fans expect to hear them? I have three guesses.

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The Song No Longer Fits the Artist’s or Group’s Image

I’m thinking this probably was the case with Three Dog Night. In line with its circus theme, The Show Must Go On has a stylized intro and outro that sounds like a calliope. Those parts may be hard to recreate on stage or just don’t work along with the harder rocking sound of the band’s other hits. And I’d bet it probably gets the least amount of airplay on oldies radio and online services for the latter reason too.

As I understand from the grapevine, Kool and the Gang usually play only a couple of slower songs like Too Hot, Cherish and maybe Joanna because most concertgoers view them as a party band, and expect as many upbeat songs as possible. Because of this, I seriously doubt they’ve done Take My Heart (You Can Have It If You Want It) that often since 1981, even though it was a top 20 hit for them.

And Elton John has said, Little Jeannie is not on his setlist because it just doesn’t work well when done live.

Of course, he has another situation going on that leads to our second reason for leaving out a hit or two…

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The Act Has Had Too Many Hits to Play

Along with Sir Elton…

Elvis Presley, The Beatles, Mariah Carey, Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Drake, Rihanna, and probably a few others I’ve unintentionally left out have had at least 25 top 10 hits alone.

Doing those 25 or so would take up at least an hour and a half each in a performance by them individually. And you know dang well they had plenty of other hits near the top 10 that fans would recognize as well.

When you’re in that stratosphere, even if you’re Bruce Springsteen playing concerts for four hours or more, something has likely got to give. The superstars simply have too much to choose from and not enough time or energy to do them all.

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The Performer Actually Hates the Song(s)

Though it was a top five hit for her, Helen Reddy grew to loathe Leave Me Alone (Ruby Red Dress).

Maybe because she sang “leave me alone” 43 times in the original record.

She reduced it to part of a medley in concert before refusing to do it at all in her last few stage appearances this century.

In some cases, a song becomes so well known and associated with an artist that he or she must include it, albeit reluctantly. Frank Sinatra had a hard time making the key change in the studio for the last chorus in “Strangers in the Night,” so he just left it out in concert and ended the song early to placate those expecting to hear it.

Similarly, Dionne Warwick has gritted her teeth and included Do You Know the Way to San Jose in her nightclub act, despite it being her least favorite hit composed by Burt Bacharach and Hal David.

It’s because she hates the “whoa, whoa whoa whoa, whoa whoa whoa, whoa” intro and outro. 

(Interestingly, in the book Dave Barry’s Book of Bad Songs, the back cover blurb mocked other tunes that used “whoa” a lot, such as “Feelings” and Paul McCartney’s “My Love.”) 

Dionne also didn’t like “Heartbreaker,” her 1980s comeback hit written by the Bee Gees. However, I’m not sure if she still does it or has dropped it from her show.

Are there any other reasons you know why an artist won’t play a hit in concert?

Have you experienced a “Hold on, where was …?” moment yourself with an artist too?

If so, please share below, and let’s talk some more about it!

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Phylum of Alexandria
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October 13, 2022 8:01 am

To be honest, I haven’t seen many BIG artists in my life, in which the expectation to hear hits would apply.

Probably the biggest was David Bowie, and he only played a few of the big hits at the concert I went to (Fame, Fashion, Jean Genie), with nothing from Ziggy Stardust or Let’s Dance, and no “Space Oddity” or “Rebel Rebel.”

I was glad to hear his newer material live (the Outside and Earthling songs), but I was also thrilled to hear so many older deep cuts: for instance, he opened with “Quicksand,” followed by “Always Crashing in the Same Car,” and then “The Supermen.” He also covered the Velvets’ “Waiting for the Man,” Jacques Brel’s “My Death,” and Laurie Anderson’s “O Superman.”

I imagine that there were fans there who hoped to hear all of the biggest hits, and so they must have been disappointed. But while I would have loved to have heard Bowie sing “Heroes” live, it would only be worthwhile if the artist himself is excited about doing it.

I never understood the “just grin and bear it and churn through the hits” approach to concerts. If they’re enjoying themselves, then I will enjoy the show.

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October 13, 2022 8:25 am

When I’m at a show, my inner 14-year-old wants to hear them play the hits, and do them exactly like the record.
My inner 30s guy wants to hear a slight variation and subtle reinterpretation of the big songs.
And now? I’m all in if they want to completely flip the script and rework the tune to a level of 80% recognizability.
I guess I’ll chalk it up to acquired patience, or whatever.

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October 13, 2022 10:41 am
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Yeah, how they perform the song is crucial. I saw Patti Smith twice, and she performed “Land” both times. The first time, it was incredible; not precisely like the recording, but just as electrifying. The second time sounded like Beatnik Story Hour, and it was rather underwhelming.

And yet it can sometimes go the other way. After hearing TV on the Radio play “Wolf Like Me” live, the studio version (which I loved when it came out) now seems anemic in comparison. Whenever I hear the song, I think of the sheer ferocity that wasn’t captured in the official version.

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October 13, 2022 11:10 am

Thankfully there are some live takes available that capture the magic pretty damn well.

These two Letterman appearances are both great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxawVMQ02dc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlHrCg67axw

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October 13, 2022 9:55 pm

I’ve seen that first TV on the Radio live performance so many times, but I still watched it. Uncanny comment. I was disappointed by the studio version, too. And it’s the only banger. Return to Cookie Mountain sounds like a lost Prince album. Wyatt Cenac name-drops TV on the Radio in Barry Jenkins’ first film Medicine for Melancholy to great effect.

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October 14, 2022 6:45 am
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That first performance captures how Tunde Adebimpe was when I saw them play it–just absolutely wild. I like the second one because it captures how thunderous the band sound live.

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October 13, 2022 9:58 am

I’ve seen Radiohead a couple of times and they didn’t play Creep either time but then again I don’t think anyone really expects them to anyway as they’ve long made it clear their antipathy towards it. They have given it the very occasional airing but they moved so far away from Creep that I wouldn’t think people come away disappointed not to have heard it.

The best example I have though is an act that may not be familiar to you; Shakin’ Stevens. He almost made it onto my Big in Britain round up, he was massive here through the 80s but managed the sum total of one Billboard entry. I saw him at Glastonbury 2008, he had one of the legends spots, opening the Pyramid stage on the Saturday. A huge crowd rolled up to be eased into the day with an hour of good time nostalgia. Shaky had other ideas, despite a back catalogue featuring four #1s and 15 top 10s he gave us a handful of the big hits but filled out the set with new material that no one was interested in. He’d had one top 40 hit in the last 15 years so its not like there was a clamour for new songs. The high, or rather lowlight of this approach was playing a T Rex cover; again a wealth of big hits to choose from that everyone could sing along to but no, Shaky picked Laser Love, a #41 non hit from 1976 long after T Rex’s prime.

Festivals are not the place to indulge your whims and promote the new album and lost tracks when your duty is to give us the hits.

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October 13, 2022 10:05 am

#JusticeForLaserLove

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October 13, 2022 10:26 am

#JusticeForJJ – those festival tickets were damned expensive and I want my money’s worth. If I wanted to hear obscure T Rex singles I’d pay a fraction of the price to see a covers band.

Actually, I’m not sure even T.Rextasy (great name) are playing Laser Love such is its place in their legacy.

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October 13, 2022 10:32 am

He could have at least regaled the crowd with the real winning T. Rex single from that era, with the immortal line: “Did you ever see a woman coming out of New York City with a frog in her hand?”

, any chance to get a “Fakin Stevens” act to tour the UK?

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October 14, 2022 10:30 am

This brings up another reason an artist might not play a certain song live: it’s too seasonal. In the case of Shakin’ Stevens, that would be “Merry Christmas Everyone”… and that’s the only song of his I know. Still 1 more than most Americans could tell you.

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October 14, 2022 12:40 pm

See number 10. Mick gets it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J26rAsZTpzQ

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October 13, 2022 10:21 am

I saw The Police only once, on their Zenyatta Mondatta tour, and was disappointed they didn’t do “Canary In A Coalmine.” It wasn’t a hit or anything, but it’s still my favorite Police song.

I also saw Frank Zappa only once, right around the same time. I knew he was going to be unpredictable, and he was, but I was really hoping to hear “St. Alphonso’s Pancake Breakfast.” By that point, he had, what, 1,347 albums? So he had plenty of other material to choose from, plus whatever intelligent nonsense he came up with that afternoon.

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October 13, 2022 11:48 am

A couple of months ago, I saw Elvis Costello (with Nick Lowe) and he didn’t do an encore, which meant he didn’t do “Allison.” I’m pretty sure it’s because we were at Wolf Trap, which has a pretty hard 11:00 noise cutoff, and he just ran out of time.

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October 13, 2022 10:00 pm
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I saw Elvis Costello accompanied by the symphony; he played none of my favorite songs, save for “Jackson, Monk, and Rowe”. I gained an appreciation for “The Birds Will Still Be Singing”, though.

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October 13, 2022 12:40 pm

I really enjoyed this, Ozmoe. Having seen Elton, Bruce and Billy Joel multiple times, I’m pretty sure I’ve heard most of their iconic stuff live at least once. This did a good job of explaining why I might not hear a particular song I love, though. (Someday I’ll attend a concert again!)

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October 13, 2022 1:05 pm

Interesting article, ozmoe.
I think you hit upon a good point concerning artists who have numerous top forty hits.
My wife and I saw the Rolling Stones in concert awhile back and after the show we were taking the shuttle back to the parking lot and there were a dozen or so Stones roadies decked out in Stones gear and we struck up a conversation and we touched on this very point about what songs get played and what get left off.
The very proudly stated they followed the Stones from city to city and that the Stones had definitive playlists for each appearance i.e. they would sing “Angie” in LA but substitute “Wild Horses” for it in Denver.
I wrote about our concert experience on the Mothership and the fact we were in the back of the arena for the first part of the performance and then the stage split in half and rolled to our area and we became the front row.
The roadies said Jagger and Richards had in their contract that sometime during the show (where feasible) all of the attendees would at some point be close to the stage.

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October 14, 2022 12:44 pm
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I only saw the Rolling Stones once, and they didn’t do “Angie” during the concert. Thankfully, we got to the stadium very early and heard them play it in its entirety as part of the sound check.

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October 13, 2022 7:07 pm

Great analysis I never been to a concert in my life (the closest to that are the Palenques, but I don’t know if can be considered as concerts properly).

The reasons you pointed out why some artists do that omissions are right, and quoting what the vocalist of A Flock Of Seagulls said in one of those V-H1 specials, about “I Ran”: “It’s not my pride and joy anymore”.

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October 13, 2022 11:29 pm

One other reason (which is kind of an offshoot of your first reason) is self-censorship due to potentially offensive material. Probably the biggest example of this is “Brown Sugar”, which the Rolling Stones removed from their setlist just last year. Of course, that one was pretty well publicized ahead of time, so fans shouldn’t be surprised to not hear it…

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October 14, 2022 10:34 am
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That goes double at, say, the Super Bowl Halftime Show. “Lose Yourself” was really the obvious choice for Eminem there.

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