Were you a late bloomer to Top 40 radio, waking up to it well into your teens?
Maybe you had parents who were professional musicians, and it’s just always existed in your life? Or was it forced upon you as a younger sibling?
Was it a slow steady build… or was a particular song the equivalent of a young cinephile having their mind blown seeing Star Wars while still in preschool?
It’s a given that our collective lot of tnocs.com residents love music. But how did it evolve to be such an all consuming aspect of our lives? No doubt everyone’s origin story is unique. I figured that this would be a good excuse to evaluate my journey. Because honestly, I’d never really thought about it before.
My parents were not musical, but they definitely enjoyed music.
I don’t ever remember a radio not being on in the house as I was growing up. Whatever room we were in, the radio was on. I think in retrospect my mom preferred having the background noise, to make the house sound “fuller”.
The default station was the news radio channel, but I remember a lot of ‘dad rock’ music, Motown and 60s music, since that was their musical sweet-spot era. Not to mention my mom was Beatles fan and had all their albums and many of their 45RPM singles.
Thankfully, they had moved on from their hippie phase by the time I was born, so there was more variety, and not all Joan Baez and Bob Dylan, 24/7. But for as long as I can remember, music existed in our house, as natural as needing to drink water. I never considered life could exist without music.
In 1981, my parents purchased a new car after their previous one went kaput. And, Big Deal Alert:
it had a built in cassette player.
My parents were big on doing long drives on weekends, and drives to relative’s houses were often several hours, so they kept several cassettes in the car. As most of their music collection at that time was on vinyl, however, the selection of cassette titles were… kinda slim. So it was the same six cassettes or so just swapped out, for years.
But, in a way, it was good. Because it helped to shape my idea (as a 7 year old) of what I thought was “good music” and what I realized I REALLY didn’t like. And youngling Dutch realized pretty quickly that she was not a folk music fan. I have erected a mental block regarding Judy Collins’ songs, so aside from Send in the Clowns. I could not tell you anything about her work, but I don’t doubt for a second I’ll know every word, if her albums were played for me now. Nope. Slow, introspective music was definitely not my thing.
Dad had one tape in the car that was just his:
The Best of the Doobie Brothers. I would ask for that to be played every time I was in the car, just because it rocked (in comparison). No idea what Black Water was about, or where China Grove was. But hey, they thought Jesus Was Just Alright, and they sounded good when making that declaration.
Then they had this guy singing on some of the songs that was just mesmerizing, like, “how is a person able to sound that smooth and perfect while singing?” Michael McDonald did not seem human to my ears, even at a young age where I knew nothing about music. But, as I mentioned in the comments on mt58’s article the other week, he was like Steely Dan, where you just knew that this was some sort of masterclass talent at work. So, it’s very possible that Michael McDonald drove my lifelong attraction to singers with unmistakable timbres in retrospect.
But yeah… youngling Dutch would definitely perk up when the drums went boom, the bass would thunder and guitars would scream. That was my choice, from everything I had been exposed to at an early age, including my drama queen ‘woe is me’ fits, whenever they turned on the classical station – because those drums definitely did not go boom – unless it was the William Tell Overture, ha!
I recall one day in second grade, when a classmate brought his J Geils Band cassette into class, and a bunch of us gathered around the school’s big, clunky portable cassette player in the back of the room, jamming to Freeze Frame and Centerfold. I remember feeling so jealous of him that he had ‘real’ music, and a real music cassette, and how I wanted my own album of real music too. I did have records that were solely mine at that time, but they were mostly Disney Soundtracks… just not the same as the cool stuff I heard coming out of the radio.
That time finally came for me just a year later, when Thriller was released. Yep, that tidal wave was so huge it swept me up in it as well. The only cassette player in the house at the time was on the stereo in the living room, so whenever I found time I’d just sit down on the living room floor with headphones on and listen to as much of the album as I could. I finally had ‘real’ music of my own, and it felt AWESOME.
Shortly after getting Thriller my grandparents bought me my own portable cassette player, so I started taping songs off the radio with it. I don’t think it was much longer before I got my own radio in my room with a built in cassette deck to record directly off the radio.
First Walkman was soon after that – radio only, so it was a tiny thing, but it meant freedom for me.
I could disappear into my own personal headphone space whenever I wanted.
I think I got my first tape player Walkman in 1988 or 1989, and oh my God, it was so momentous. It was the equivalent of being given keys to a new car at 16.
I went everywhere with my Walkman, and by then all I cared about for presents from relatives was batteries (hooray for rechargeable batteries!!)
After Thriller, the next cassettes that I was fortunate enough to be gifted with were the Pointer Sisters Break Out, Whitney Houston’s debut, and Janet Jackson’s Control. I was definitely favoring mid 80s R&B at that time.
My Duran Duran enlightenment occurred during this time as well, but I actually didn’t own any of their albums until 1989’s Decade album. This all overlapped my first learning to play an instrument as well in late 1983, so I’m sure the thrill of learning to play fed my music obsession, and vice versa.
Because I had my own control over what I listened to, and had grown up with an open mind towards just appreciating anything that I enjoyed, I would just soak in everything up and down the dial whenever I tuned in to the radio.
The Philadelphia market had a massive overabundance of station varieties to choose from, it was fantastic. Power 99, Philly’s urban station, became a regular favorite on the dial for me and exposed me to the fantabulous world of rap music on top of all the R&B I was digging.
So when the Beastie Boys took our middle school by storm with Licensed to Ill, I was prepared.
And when glam metal then had our school in a chokehold by 1987 and totally made us slaves to that sound, it was like living a dream – pop mentality of hooks and melody over thumping bass, screaming guitars and drums going super-boom. What a great time to be 13 and hitting your musical obsession stride!!
So those early years totally set me on my musical journey that continues today. Thanks to Phylum’s recent encouragement, I’ve been setting my Pandora to “Classical For Relaxation” station a lot more here recently, and I’ve been pleasantly surprised at just how much I do recognize. I miss jazz (Orlando actually had a really great all jazz station in the 90s that became the default station for the living room stereo), and have been thinking of delving back into that again.
I try to keep an open mind with current Top 40 radio, but too much is stale at the moment, like innovation in music got stuck in a vinyl groove 12 years ago and it just keeps skipping with no real progress. It’ll come around though again, music always does.
So, I’d love to hear what your evolution journeys were…. and where you’d like to continue to next on your travels.
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What a great article to wake up to! (though I’ve been awake for 3 hours now)
I’ve often thought about this, and I have a few theories which coincide with yours. Kids are influenced by 1 of 3 sources, based on my observations in my neighborhood:
In case you haven’t guessed, I was #3…an outlier in my neighborhood. There’s a long story there, but I’m a few years older than you, but the local radio stations were a big influence:
WIFI 92.1 was the Top 40 station for a short time, until
WCAU 98.1 “Hot Hits” took over.
Power 99 started around the same time, and I was there for their Top 9 @ 9 and the Quiet Storm
When I worked for my dad (1981-84), the guys always played WMMR (93.3) and WYSP (94.1), the classic/hard rock stations in Philly.
I’m sure I could go on and on about the various songs and moments in my life that shaped my musical tastes, but it’s too long to go into here…just know that your article has triggered a whole bunch of memories!!!
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” What a great article to wake up to! (though I’ve been awake for 3 hours now)”
I sometimes wonder if anyone is up and about at 4AM when I post the new daily Up Front.
You made our day!
And here I am, struggling to roll out of bed at 8 to log in to my work laptop. You early birds, sheesh. 😉
MMR and YSP, absolutely! Which one had Howard Stern? I didn’t have a preference on which station, but there were definite classic rock station loyalties on the part of a lot of listeners. I recall Allentown had an awesome station I listened to alot as well, WABE I think, right?
Honestly, I never listened to our actual ‘local’ radio station in Reading unless it was snowing and I was waiting for that delay announcement. Ah, such a sweet memory hearing our district was the only one in the county the was closed because we were so rural vs everyone else’s 2 hour delay, mwah-ha-ha…!
YSP had Stern, but that was after I was stuck listening to it.
I used to drive to Toronto and back over Canada Day weekend, and one time on the way home an AMAZING song came on an Allentown radio station, I believe in 2005.
I’ve never forgotten the chills listening to this:
https://youtu.be/88sbbIX07Qg
“I’ve never forgotten the chills listening to this: “The Engine Driver”. Did The Decemberists peak with Picaresque? Great from start to finish.
I’m in Camp 3 as well… and my much younger brother had no interest in my music — nor my son for that matter, so I can’t contribute to a Camp 1 or Camp 2 scenario for them unfortunately.
That was always my sister’s running joke while growing up (she’s 11 years younger than me).
“I only had 2 choices of music to listen to growing up – George Michael or Duran Duran. Good thing I actually like Duran.”
My brother is 11 years younger than me as well… it’s like Bizarro world up in here!
My brother lived and breathed sports, so he really didn’t have time for my — or anybody else’s — music.
I’ll put my hand up as a sort of 3.5 on your scale as the younger sibling working it out for himself!
I’d be a cross of Numbers 1 and 3 on your scale there — while they were married, my parents did their share of influencing (early K-tel albums, a Magnus organ with contemporary hits in the songbook … Snowbird, She’s a Lady, et al). After they divorced, I pretty much fended for myself musically (although I must give my mom props for her one-year subscription to Billboard magazine in 76-77 … super expensive for most people outside the industry let alone a single parent).
A great post.
Music was always on. My parents’ favorite radio station was an oldies station (I can still hear its jingle) that played mostly MoTown and British Invasion.
No musicians in the family, except for yours truly. Other family members have shown great aptitude in visual arts (drawing and painting), for which I have none. But the joke is that the creative gene morphed on my end. No complaints there. The guitar and the piano have done, and continue to do, so much for me–and I can’t imagine a life without them.
I have to enter a boring meeting in 10 mins. Let’s see if I can do this.
Late childhood – Walkman – Nirvana, Soundgarden, Faith No More, Metallica.
Early Teens – Walkman to Discman – Radiohead, Pearl Jam, Blur
Mid Teens – Discman – Metal, metal, and more metal
Late Teens – Discman; mp3 – classic rock (you know the gang; pretty much listened to nothing post 1977)
Early to mid 20s – mp3 – Wilco, My Morning Jacket, with a lot of singer/songwriters, such as Dylan, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell
Late 20s – mp3 – the same as above, with more hip-hop, electronic and movie soundtracks. a little bit of jazz. a little bit of classical.
30s onwards – streaming – War on Drugs, Spoon, all the hip-hop I missed out on in the 90s, with a serious re-evaluation of New Wave (Police, XTC, Talking Heads) which I glossed over in late teens and early 20s.
Mid to late 30s – streaming; vinyl – jazz, jazz and more jazz.
Now that is awesome – breaking down eras by the technology we listened to the music on!!
Remember the big deal going from regular Discman to one that had the anti skip feature with a several second buffer?! Screw you potholes, my cd to cassette converter in my car will not be defeated!
Love the era breakdown. I’m stealing it:
Early childhood: My mom singing to herself (mostly hymns), Church congregation, my parent’s vinyl collection (classic Disney soundtracks, Christian folk rock, Bob Dylan’s Christian stuff, Simon & Garfunkel), a portable AM radio (Bobby Vee, Buddy Holly, the Tokens)
Late childhood: Handel’s Messiah CD, Nat King Cole Christmas album, School choir (religious stuff), Christian contemporary (my first concert was James Ward!), my sister’s picks (thrash/hair metal and rap, respectively), top 40 radio (early 90s pop and 80s retro station)
Early teens: Alternative rock radio, movie soundtracks (Wayne’s World 2, Beavis & Butthead Experience, The Crow)
Mid teens: Friend recommendations/loans (punk, goth, industrial), mix tapes, used record store sale bin, zines, alternative radio but with strategic disdain
Late teens: Bands that my bands love (proto-punk, glam, post-punk, no wave); stuff to do drugs to (classic psychedelia, trance and techno), college radio (80s alternative, random obscurities)
Early to mid 20s: Stuff played at my job (WXPN radio: Patti Smith, Richard Thompson, Tom Waits, Tom Verlaine, etc), college radio, actual college, All Music Guide website (lots!), Pitchfork, working at Tower Records (everything!!!), Tokyo (even more!)
Late 20’s: eMusic downloads (mostly classical and jazz), reacting against living in small rural college town (deep dive into industrial and hip hop)
30s: Living in Montreal and NYC with my wife (even more jazz and classical), Stereogum (some rock, rap, and pop)
Late 30s-early 40s: Checking out Stereogum and scouting out new stuff for my regular Phono Album update!
You could cut and paste about half your story Dutch and it would be mine. I think we’re from the same micro-generation…. seeing Star Wars in preschool, Thriller as first “real music” cassette tape, understanding the Walkman as a huge life-changer, License to Ill dominating middle school, hair metal soon to follow.
My parents had mostly pretty horrible taste in music… mostly adult contemporary (some of which, like Toto, wasn’t so bad in retrospect). But while yours had a radio going constantly as background, mine had the TV blaring, alas.
After Thriller, my first cassettes were Prince Purple Rain, Billy Joel Greatest Hits Vol I and II, and Cyndi Lauper She’s So Unusual. Had to play them on one of those tape recorders with the handle and the microphone… the ones used primarily for recording, not listening.
I’ve heard it said that whatever music you were into when you were 14 is the music that will imprint on your life and you’ll always love. When I was 14, I discovered Queensryche’s seminal album Operation: Mindcrime and I listened to it more or less constantly. I think I can still quote every lyric from memory today. That was in the midst of a lot of metal… Guns N Roses, Metallica, Cinderella. The first of many methods I used to destroyed my hearing was playing heavy metal music at 100% volume on my Walkman while mowing the lawn (it was rural and it was our lawn, my grandparents lawn and my great aunt’s lawn… lots of mowing = lots of damage. Which seemed very metal at the time.)
Late high school portended the evolution to alternative, starting with The Cure’s Disintegration (another all-timer) in 1990 and Jane’s Addiction and Nirvana soon after that.
Then at college, when the term “alternative” was basically becoming a flavor of mainstream, I went full indie rock. I DJ’ed at my university station and heavily followed local legends Archers of Loaf (who made a tiny splash on the national stage), along with many other bands too small to even get an occasional 120 Minutes video. This was also the heavy concert attending portion of my life… several live shows a month was the 2nd big contributor to my hearing loss.
In grad school, I went through a pronounced bluegrass phase too. I grew up in Kentucky, the home of bluegrass music, but barely if ever heard it growing up (the kajillion country stations all played the same stuff that Nashville was hawking). But bluegrass was front and center in my music world, along with jam bands, when I was in grad school…
Only in my later years have I discovered the pop, rap and R&B from my high school and college years was actually pretty awesome, thanks to my son, who’s a big throwbacks fan.
It’s been a wild ride, and the best part is it never ends. Evolve until you die, heck maybe even keep evolving after that. (Who knows?)
I’ve heard many others make the same comment about our teenage years – “I cranked that volume up so high on my Walkman while I had to mow the lawn as a kid….” lol
I totally dig Toto as well. Hold the Line? I’ll Be Over You? Africa? So good!
I notice Taylor Swift released a song called “Carolina”. Eric Bachmann’s “Carolina” is amazing. Remember Small 23’s “True Zero Hook”? I also love Dillon Fence. I hear early Elvis Costello in “Summer”. Rosemary is a stealth indie rock classic. Yes. I was there for the Chapel Hill is the next Seattle hype.
Great stuff Dutch
Where to next? Just keep going, there’s always something new to find. Today I discovered Ducks Ltd, a Canadian / Australian band with a retro jangly guitar sound. Nothing that reinvents the wheel but a great sound. And they’re coming to Leeds in September so I’m already booked in to see them.
I pretty much split my listening 50/50 between the old and familiar and current acts, . And whenever we’re in the car as a family we listen to top 40 radio. I don’t like everything but there’s plenty there that keeps me interested. Like Pauly says, keep evolving – there’s always something exciting just waiting to be found.
I Shazam any new songs I hear and like off the Sirius satellite radio alt rock channels, and skim thru a BIRP playlist they issue each month (120+ songs). Since I’ve had children I’ve discovered about 200 songs a year I like this way; the rest are holdovers from previous years OR my 9 year old introduced to me, which is kind of cool.
I shared this story on in the Beloved Music Critic’s comment section before, but a conversation I had with my father about Steve Miller’s “Abracadabra” in 1981 made me recognize that I never wanted to be him when it came to music – drawing a line in the calendar and determining there wasn’t any music made after an arbitrary moment worth listening to.
There are three certifiable classics on the Pointer Sisters’ Break Out album: “Jump (For My Love),” “Automatic” and “Neutron Dance.” But the real sleeper, and actually the first single released from Break Out, was the R&B ballad “I Need You.” It’s terrific, and because the song uncharacteristically tanked on the pop charts, it’s largely unknown.
Completely agree. That album was wild on the charts, with its first single and its last completely missing the Top 40, and the four* in-between (I always use the * because I consider “I’m So Excited” more of a 1982 hit re-released than a proper 1984 hit) going Top 10.
Hello all! Dipping my toe into the tnocs.com waters, looks nice. I’m ready to jump in…
I’m old enough to have had a Walkman but I remember rarely using it. When it came to music consumption, what I saw and listened to on tv and on radio kept me happy until my early teens. My mom did have a cassette player in her car and I have fond memories of listening to her country tapes when we weren’t listening to country radio. I’ve never been a huge country fan, but those memories and the fact of living in the South keep me somewhat tuned in. On rare occasions a pop tune caught her fancy. We both loved the one Chumbawunba hit and she bought the LP on cassette for us to listen to in the car.
I had a larger portable cassette player for my room which, in my burgeoning purchase days, I used to play the first Hanson album. No regrets! Then around 13 or 14 I got my first CD player, a silver Sony whatsis, which became my lifeline from the tumultuous days of middle school through high school and up until I broke down and got an iPod in 2006!
I think I appreciated music more when I would only have enough money to buy a single CD with my allowance and then it would be months later when I purchased enough. Call it Stockholm Syndrome or just a shrewd instinct as to what I would like, but more often than not I would end up loving every CD I bought. I mean I had to! This is all I had! My first CD was the Phantom Menace soundtrack. Now I’m 100% streaming but I still have on hand just about every CD from my youth.
Kind of a ramble but I was eager to plug in my two cents! Great column, dutch!
Good Welcome to you, @Logan Taylor! So glad that you’ve joined in the fun!
Thank you Logan. Nice to see you around these parts as well!
Good post and great musical journey Dutch.
I come from a musical family (a talent that I didn’t inherit). My father, his brother, best friend, and a cousin or two played bluegrass and gospel music as often as they could get together. Every memory that I have of family gatherings as a child have music in the background. We children would run in and out, sing along with favorites occasionally, and then head back outside to our bikes and scooters.
As I got older and began discovering music for myself, it was British invasion and bubblegum, superseded by what is now considered classic rock. I always have time for singer-songwriters and folk, in limited quantities. Later, I kind of fell in love with New Wave, and I have always been partial to metal as well.
Still listening to new things and discovering old things that I missed the first time around. My daughter, son-in-law, and I trade back and forth quite a bit. Had a fun one a couple of weeks ago. We were at a concert and upcoming shows were being advertised. I had minor palpitations when I saw that Porcupine Tree was going to be in the area. My son-in-law had never heard of them. I sent him a few tracks, and now he is a fan and is going to see them live. I, alas, will have to miss them, as I have already come home, and they won’t be performing near me.
What a wonderful musical journey and you are blessed to have parents that enjoyed music. I gravitated to music all on my own and would seek out music wherever I went. Mom was totally cool and would listen to the 45s I would buy when she took me to JC Penney. Dad on the other hand was totally not down with any music, except for opera and Gregorian Chant, which are genres that totally draw in the under 10s.
There were frequent battles between my younger brother and I to end up in my Mom’s car and NOT my Dad’s (they would often have their own cars when we went home after working at my Dad’s grocery stores) Mom played WROK, the Rockford, IL Top 40 station and Dad was all in on Chicago’s AM News Radio 78, WBBM. Still going. Ironically, I listened to WBBM when I lived in Chicago, primarily for the traffic, which is still a hot mess and the same number of lanes on 90 into the city some 50 years on.
Quiz time: Pointer Sisters’ Breakout – Fab album! Did you have the version with I’m So Excited or the earlier version without the song? I Need You was the lead single, but stiffed. Automatic rocketed, followed by the sublime, Jump (For My Love). I’m So Excited was originally released in 1982 and made #30, but was re-released and remixed and added to Breakout, continuing the Pointers’ run of Top 10s (Neutron Dance would follow) and bolsting the album’s success. Dance Electric is the non-single gem for me on this record. I geeked out, just a bit. Apologies, but i’m so excited, er!!!
I have the album sans I’m So Excited. I bought it when Automatic was taking off after enjoying I Need You on Indianapolis’ WENS.
I couldn’t find my Break Out cassette this morning when I went looking for it 😔
Pretty sure mine had I’m So Excited on it though. And here’s a bonkers thing for y’all – when I first listened to Automatic, I kept thinking it was a song about a Laundromat. I have no idea if I was trying to do some Weird Al thing, or what, but still sticks with me to this day!
I’m another who was fortunate to grow up in a house of music lovers, and a decent range of styles. My mom was into current soft pop and country (this was the ’70s, so lots of ONJ and Anne Murray on the 8-track player). My dad was 11 years older than she was, and was more big bands, Boots Randolph, Floyd Cramer… my sister and I mocked his choices but I’m glad now to have heard it. My parents also had a bunch of early rock era albums by the likes of Elvis and Buddy Holly, and some time in the late ’70s my sister was allowed to order a few as-seen-on-TV compilations to supplement those. We devoured those pre-Beatles tunes, wanted more more more.
Meantime, my sis (five years older than I) was also into the top 40 of the time. The first song I remember getting lodged in my brain was “Convoy” (during my year at Mother Goose preschool)… that kicked off my nearly 30 years as a pophead, if it got played by Casey Kasem there was at least an 85% chance that I’d like it. My first cassette album (not shared) was Kool & the Gang’s “Celebrate”. First vinyl LP was “Stars on Long Play” (yes, the one with the 15-minute Beatles medley). First 45 was Billy Squier’s “The Stroke”. First cassingle is hazy (I was buying a LOT of singles by the latter half of the ’80s), but I think it was “Cars With The Boom” by L’Trimm (yep). First CD was Whitney’s sophomore album. First CD single was (I believe) LL Cool J’s “Mama Said Knock You Out”. First paid download was Jewel’s “Intuition” (this was pre-iTunes so it was a marvel, even though I’d already been getting stuff off Limewire for free prior to that).
I stuck with Top 40 music through its ups and downs, and my personal favorites especially in the fragmented ’90s were colored by whatever direction the local CHR station happened to lean at the time (rhythmic, rock, or adult). Not long after Casey Kasem handed over the AT40 reigns to Ryan Seacrest in 2004, I started to lose touch with straight up pop music, drifting first toward the hip hop station, then over to alternative (based on whatever radio signal came in clearest in my work cubicle), then mostly classic ’80s with a brief foray into Hot AC. By 2017, my now-wife and I started attending church and I got immersed in CCM, which interestingly enough had me chart watching for the first time in almost 15 years as I searched to add new stuff to my YouTube library. Round about the end of 2020 I started reading about Mariah Carey’s assault on the number one spot with her Christmas oldie, and that led me to weekly looks at the Hot 100 and then to start listening to American Top 40 again. I’ve realized that I enjoy a whole lot of the current crop of pop, although not enough to make it a steady diet, especially with how long today’s biggest hits stay in current rotation (four hours once a week is enough to keep me up-to-date without getting sick of it). I’m spending a whole lot more of my time sampling the stuff that gets discussed in the mothership comments, songs that I missed out on with my narrow top 40 focus back then. I honestly have a hard time getting into a lot of it (maybe my brain is just wired to like audio fluff lol), but I can appreciate why other folks like what they like and every so often something will hit me in the right way and I say “yes, I get it”. THAT is an awesome feeling.
Love this. I had a similar experience of my parents getting a cassette player in the Pontiac right around 1981-82. They also had a few cassettes–Michael McDonald’s If That’s What it Takes, Kenny Loggins’s High Adventure, Paul McCartney’s Tug of War, etc. We listened to those over and over…Thanks for this fun read!